Help for Learners

[Jashwntw]

Shwmae,

How do you express a reflexive sentence in welsh?

ie

I express myself
you express yourself
he/she expresses him/herself

[Jashwntw]

Excuse me as I used the BBC geiriadur, which is not always reliable

fi'n mynegi fy hunan?

Does this make sense?

[Jashwntw]

Shwmae,

I just wanted to ask whether in spoken welsh is it better to say fy mod i, ei fod e... or bo fi, bo fe...
Is it natural to say the second structure?

Same as mo fi, mohono fe... mo fi, mo fe... or maybe mo(ho)no fe > mono fe...

Diolch yn fawr

[Tahl]

Shwmae,

I just wanted to ask whether in spoken welsh is it better to say fy mod i, ei fod e... or bo fi, bo fe...
Is it natural to say the second structure?

Some people do the first, some people do the second, some people do both (occasionally in the same sentence). Listen to Radio Cymru and you'll hear all variations.

[Jashwntw]

I guess the really important thing is not to forget how to write in the correct way. My inclination is the more contracted the better in speech. But it's just an opinion

[Jashwntw]

One question that has just come to me, why odi e, and not odi fe?

[Brychan]

One question that has just come to me, why odi e, and not odi fe?

Both are as common as each other- although when one orgasms the +f form is more common.

[Jashwntw]

I always thought vowel then e, makes e> fe

[Brychan]

No - sometimes people say mae e or mae'n and other times ma fe, but not mae fe.

[Jashwntw]

No - sometimes people say mae e or mae'n and other times ma fe, but not mae fe.

So after odi, would you feel it more natural to say e or fe?
Diolch

[Brychan]

No - sometimes people say mae e or mae'n and other times ma fe, but not mae fe.

So after odi, would you feel it more natural to say e or fe?
Diolch

I would probably say 'fe' - but it doesn't strike me as a strong dialect thing - odi e'n dod heno/ odi fe'n dod heno - both sound natural to me; perhaps some use one over the other...

[Jashwntw]

There seem to be many words for to swim - nofio, oifad... Is it that nofio is a word only taught to learners?
What would be most heard in say Carmarthenshire?

Also how is oifad pronounced, o'fad?

[DaiTwp]

(m)oifad is very much a dialect (Gwenhwyseg) word of S/SE Wales, parts of eastern camarthenshire being the furthest west that its used. Not many people use it nowadays (or would even understand it) outside of the areas surroundng the swansea valley, worse luck. Nofio is far far more common and certainly the standard term for swimming. I know 1st lang speakers from further west who now live in the swansea valley but had never come across oifad before moving there.
Its pronounced oi (as when you shout oi!) vad.

[Jashwntw]

(m)oifad is very much a dialect (Gwenhwyseg) word of S/SE Wales, parts of eastern camarthenshire being the furthest west that its used. Not many people use it nowadays (or would even understand it) outside of the areas surroundng the swansea valley, worse luck. Nofio is far far more common and certainly the standard term for swimming. I know 1st lang speakers from further west who now live in the swansea valley but had never come across oifad before moving there.
Its pronounced oi (as when you shout oi!) vad.

Great

I've started my own glossary Literary > Colloquial (SW)

Allan > Mas
Cyflym > Clau (Cloi)
Eisiau > Moyn
Gorffen > Bennu
Mawr > Mowr

Also the unvoiced -ydd

Dy' Sul
Be sy digwy'? Newy' (pronounced digwi and newi)

Rwyf wedi > Fi di

And i've got most of this from this forum.

Diolch yn fawr pawb

[Jashwntw]

Also is it common to say Bord instead of Bwrdd as Gareth King suggests in Modern Welsh? Or is this a S-SE thing?