Wind Farms in North Wales - Yeah or Nay?

[siopybont]

So you saw the program as well did you Dafydd. Pity there are no grants for installing solar panels.

[Arwen]

A rebate isn't a refund though. A lot of money to invest. It's always going to be easy to forget the environment and just use what we've got.

No rebates are basically refunds, Pete. They send you back a check or credit your bill.

[Hazel]

Now, here is a thought which I just read at the closing of an article in Realm magazine about Lincolnshire's old windmills. Some day, we may see a wind turbine in every two supplying that town's electricity.

When I think of the television towers, the radio towers, mainline utility poles, even some rather horrible-looking skyscrapers, a wind turbine to supply my town with electricity doesn't sound any worse.

Just an early morning

[DavidHicks]

From seeing the air turbines out at sea near Rhyl, I am mixed on the idea. I know that they are good for the enviroment and everything, but they do spoil the scene.

[dafydd]

The French have no problem with Nuclear (about 80% I think) the reactors could be buried in the ground and no-one need see them.

But, don't forget the French would be happy to have Frogs with six legs.

[Mick]

I think they should put the ugly things with all the other ugly things and stick them on top of the ugly city buildings, highrise structures etc. Leave the countryside as countryside. Also, if the city population needs to expand, let it tunnel straight down (within reason). That's my point of view! I'm country through and through.

[ajames]

Nay I say to wind power. It's so incredibly inefficient, and it ruins the landscape.

30 years after the 2 meltdowns, we now have much safer designs for nuclear reactors. The chance of a meltdown is lower than the chance of a train crash. You can recycle 90-95% of the waste that is generated, and the other amount is small enough that millions of boxes of the stuff can be stored in a small bunker.

Therefore, ☢ is the only way to go.

[DavidHicks]

The whole global warming thing in my opinion has gone over the top. There have even been ideas that nothing is going to heppen (which I don't believe). The answer is transportation, it is the huge aircrafts that cause all of these emissions and so many cars.

[dragonspark]

hello to all
with respect to windfarms, on a personal note i do think they are a blight on the landscape, every weekend i walk up the mountains and can see a number of these structures both on hilltops and in the sea, i find the ones in the sea less offensive.
Nearly all of Wales has a very appealing landscape and to erect hundreds of these great white lollipop sticks on gorgeous mountains and hills is, to me at least, visually offensive.
With time i must admit they do become less noticeable, they will never blend in, however after looking in the wind farms direction for hundreds of times they do become the same as electricity pylons, there but not as noticable from when they were first erected.
Without wishing to cause offence but research i have undertaken regarding wind generation, suggests that this form of energy is inefficient, and takes far longer than the hype we are given for the wind turbines to pay for themselves, the cost of manufacture and installation takes decades to become viable, far longer than the less than a decade that is claimed.
I have run my own electrical engineering company since 1991, about three years ago i researched the possibility of entering our business into this field, though for smaller projects than wind farms, however when one takes away government incentives the real cost of windfarms far outways its benefits i am afraid to say.